
At some time, one out of three cyclists suffers serious knee pain (Am J Sports Med, 2010 Dec;38(12):2494-501). It often occurs with a new bike, upon returning to cycling after a long hiatus, or when you are trying to increase either your intensity or your mileage. If your knee starts to hurt while you are on your bike, stop riding and try to find out the cause.
The most common cause of knee pain in bicycle riders is having the seat set so high that it forces you to fully straighten the knee as the pedal reaches its lowest level. You are never supposed to fully straighten your knee when you do any kind of exercise, particularly cycling or running. If you set your seat too low, you will bend your knee excessively and be at high risk for developing pain behind your knee cap. Other common causes of knee pain are over-training, setting your seat too far forward or backward, not setting your cleats correctly or not having the correct crank length.
Seat Height
Set your seat so that your knee is bent 20 to 30 degrees when one pedal is at its lowest level, and is not bent more than 70 to 80 degrees when the pedal is at its highest level.
• When the seat is set too high: you can feel pain inside your knee, on the lateral side of the knee (iliotibial band), the medial back of the knee (pes anserinus tendon), or the lateral back (biceps femoris) of the knee.
• When the seat is set too low: excess bending of the knee causes the kneecap to rub against the femur, the long bone of your upper leg.
Distance of Seat to Handlebars
When you sit on your saddle, you should be able to reach the brake hoods with your elbows slightly bent and relaxed. You can lean slightly forward, but you should not have to slide forward or back on the seat. Move your seat backward or forward so that when you sit on it, your tibial tuberosity (the bump on your lower leg just below the knee cap) is directly above the ball of your foot when the pedal is at its most forward position.
• When the seat is set too far back: you can feel pain on lateral side of the knee (ilio-tibial band) or back of the knee (hamstring tendons).
• When the seat is set too far forward: you can feel pain in the front knee cap (patellofemoral joint), the tendon just above the knee cap (quadriceps) or the tendon just below the knee cap (patella).
Cleat Position
Pain on the inside or outside of your knee is often caused by setting your cleats so that your feet twist inward or outward.
• Cleats rotated too far inward can cause pain on the outside of the leg at the knee.
• Cleats rotated too far outward can cause pain and stress on the inside of the knee.
Grease your cleat bolts and install the cleats in the bike shoes. Make sure the front middle of the cleat is centered in the middle of the cleat box. Set the forward-back position of the cleat so that when you are clipped into the pedal, the pedal spindle will be just behind the ball of the big toe and just in front of the ball of your little toe. Tighten the cleats. Clip in and ride around and make sure that your feet feel comfortable in the pedals. If you do not feel comfortable, ask for help from your bike shop or other experienced cyclists.
Crank Length
Having cranks that are too long for you causes the knee to bend excessively at the top of the stroke and you may feel pain in the knee joint itself.
Searching for the Cause of Your Knee Pain
It is possible to do this by yourself, but it will be a lot easier if you have a friend to help you. It may take several days because with each change you make, you will need to ride for a while to see if your knee has stopped hurting. First, set your seat height: Sit on the seat in your cycling shoes with your heels on the pedals. Pedal slowly backwards. Seat height is right when your knees straighten at the bottom of the pedal circles without the need to rock on the seat to keep your heels in contact. When you are clipped in at this height you will have a 20 to 30 degree knee bend at the bottom of each stroke. Move the seat up or down until you achieve this. A quarter of an inch can make a difference to your knees.
If changing the seat height does not relieve the pain, try the other changes listed above. You may be able to “break in” an uncomfortable saddle, but trying to “break in” painful knees will only lead to a serious knee injury. If one or both knees hurt when you cycle, keep asking questions until you get a solution. Get help from more experienced riders, your local bike shop, or a bike fitter with a special bike-fit machine. A bike fitting can cost you several hundred dollars, but is recommended for serious cyclists, particularly if you are getting a new bike.
I have two questions. The first is about having your leg straight at the bottom of the stroke with your heel on the pedal. I use mountain bike shoes that have about 1/2 inch tread on the heel. Should I use bare feet to do this measurement?
Second question is about the 20 to 30 degree bend in the knee. What angle should the foot be for this measurement? At the bottom of the stroke my foot is angled slightly down. Should the foot be parallel to the ground?
“If you set your seat too low, you will bend your knee excessively and be at high risk for developing pain behind your knee cap”.
I always heard it was just the opposite of this. Seat too low = pain in front; seat too high = pain in back of knee.
The back of the kneecap is the front of the knee.
Seat height and fore/aft position numbers are only starting points for best fit because there is so much individual variation. You start there and then tweak in small increments to see if you get improvements, and you ride 100 miles in the new position before deciding whether to push the change further or back it off. A good starting point for seat height is 109% of your cycling inseam from the pedal to the top of the saddle. Cycling inseam is measured by pushing a book or 1″ dowel firmly into your crotch and measuring to the floor in bare feet.
If you change the terms High and Low to Close and Distant you also address issues of Recombent riders. High and Low doesn’t work for us.
When you say “ Cleats rotated too far outward can cause pain and stress on the inside of the knee.” Do you mean that having cleats rotated in such a way whereby the FEET point outward can cause inside knee pain? Because rotating CLEATS outward force you to clip in with the feet pointing more inward. I’m not trying to be semantically difficult, I just want to make sure I understanding correctly, as I am fighting pain on the inside on my knee, specifically inside of my knee cap. To help alleviate this, would I want my FEET positioned with toe pointing more inward or more outward?
Valid previous question. However as always, publishers write and forget about possible comments.